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talk about what the scriptures refer to as the mazero and I want to see if you can tell us a little bit of information about that and what that is according to the Holy Bible and according to the Zodiac in the scriptures yep well uh basically the word uh mazero is in the Old Testament book of job and incidentally The Book of Job in the Old Testament is the oldest book uh it seems to be the oldest book in the Bible uh in actual time when it was written it was the very first one so that's interesting the fact that job is the very first book in age it's the oldest and so uh in um the Old Testament God says to his people many times but in particular one time it says um go back to the old ways uh that was interesting the old ways go back uh to do what the Ancients did well that was Astro theology what the Ancients did the old ways and so um in the Book of Job the old way was uh referred to as mzero I think it's m a z z a r o t h mzero and that's in job 3832 job 38:32 where God is uh talking to job and uh basically he says where were you when I created the Blessed pades well that's interesting why would God called the pad's constellation blessed where were you and I created the Blessed p and then he goes on to say where were you when uh I created mazaro and can you create mazero in its season and so mazero is a is an ancient Phoenician Canaanite what we call Hebrew an ancient Hebrew word for the Zodiac any Bible dictionary reference work or any Encyclopedia of the Bible will tell you or any good uh any good Library I mean any good dictionary period just look up the word mazerat that's in Job 38 and all dictionaries will tell you it's the it's the Zodiac 12 signs of the zodiac so here in the oldest book of the Bible job God is saying to job where were you when I created the Zodiac well uh when Jesus uh in the New Testament tells us to uh pray the The Lord's Prayer uh well first of all that's not the Lord's Prayer that's the prayer the Lord told us to pray uh and so but the Lord's Prayer uh says uh Our Father Who Art in Heaven uh Hallowed be thy name let thy kingdom come and let thy will be done on Earth as it is in heaven that is very very interesting in Rel ation to mazeron so back go back over it again let thy kingdom come and thy will be done on Earth as it is in heaven we break it down like uh like the the like it was written first of all let thy kingdom come well what kind of life forms on the earth do we know to be a kingdom uh fish are in schools and birds are in flocks uh you know and uh lions are in Prides and but what is it what kind of life forms on the earth is it that's in a uh a kingdom it's the animal kingdom and so the animal kingdom is what the what the Jesus is talking about let thy kingdom come uh the animal kingdom well where do you find animals animals are in a zoo so the the study of the Animal Kingdom is called zoology from which we get the word Zodiac Zodiac is the study of the zoo of animals because the O zodiac is understood to be a circle of animals so therefore the kingdom of God is the Zodiac the the circle of animals and you ask any six-year-old child any Christian in the Jewish child uh where is God and they will Point straight out into heaven well that's what God is he's out in heaven uh and so well of course that's where the zodiac is it's out in the Stars it's out in the heavens so then he goes on to say let thy kingdom come which is the kingdom of animals animals in a zoo we're talking zodiac and let thy will be done well on Earth as it is in heaven so what it's saying is that let thy will be done on the earth well you're looking up into the heavens you're looking at the 12 signs of the of the zodiac and you're saying let that Kingdom Come well it's going to come what do you like it or not and let thy will be done well the will of the Gods is in the Zodiac the 12 signs of the zodiac is translated to be the will of God and so um let thy kingdom come and thy will be done on the earth yes as it is in heaven meaning looking into the 12 signs of the zodiac uh if you understand it correctly the way Nostradamus did in a way the the great uh theological minds of the of the ancient world understood all of this but we don't understand it today at all but the way the ancient people understood it that the will of of God is the will of the zodiac the 12 signs of the zodiac and each one of those signs uh influences the Earth it influences uh Sagittarius influences us uh Scorpio influences the Earth and that's why all the kings and rulers and princes and all the heads of state have always uh consulted the astrologers because weren't stupid we are stupid we the the people today we don't even know what we're doing uh however the ancient peoples and especially the old way was to consult the stars and there's all kinds of documentation in the Bible uh showing that the old and the New Testament in the Bible is nothing more than astrology period that's what the Old Testament is that's what the New Testament is is this is why Jesus is referred to as God's son and we think of it as s o n like your boy like your Offspring your male offspring is your son no no it's s u n God's Sun the light of the world well of course the sun lights the world what else lights the world is it the son and so the son of does not belong to you or the Chinese or anybody else on the earth know as much as we like to think we own the whole universe we don't own nothing humans don't own anything we're just uh we're just uh uh like ants on an ant pile and each one of us thinking we got the whole truth and we know everything about everything but we don't go back to the old wing and understand the way understand the way that the the ancient peoples taught and so that's what I'm suggesting that would be nice for us to do just for the hell of it is go back to the old way and uh and see what the ancient people said about Theology and God Etc and you will find that uh all of the ancient world was Far Far wiser than we are they were building pyramids and and temples and understood the happen that understood life far better than we did we we're in totally at a loss for everything all we understand is the baseball score and um pay your taxes and drink a lot of beer and party and watch the watch the game on TV that's all we know that's why our world is the mess we're in because we don't understand the esoteric and the Occult world of wisdom and knowledge and uh so in The King's English the old King's English uh the word star which we spell s a r actually was spelled a s a r Asar so in the old in the old ancient Kings English as star was a star we take the a off and just spell it star uh so the idea was in the anent in the in the uh Middle Ages Early Middle Ages the idea was is that if you don't understand the Zodiac in relation to your life and 12 signs which is the kingdom of God and you don't understand how the kingdom will come on the earth and it's and and its will the God's will will be done on the earth whether you like it or not uh so if you don't understand the Zodiac then you don't understand the asars and if you don't understand the asars then your life is going to be a disaster and that's why we get the concept of disaster because you don't know understand the Stars you have no idea in the world what's actually in fact happening on the earth or in the solar system or in the universe or in your Galaxy we don't have the faintest idea in the world about none of it because we've lost track of wisdom and knowledge and in the place of it we put basketball and stupidity but the ancient peoples didn't have television and silly uh sitcoms and Bugs Bunny and all the silly crap that's been for us to keep us occupied so we don't think too much and dumb us down the ancient peoples realized and understood the ancient teachings of the wisdom teachers and so my feeling has always been I think it' be better just to go back to the old way like the scripture says and so the old way is to understand the 12 12 SS of the uh of the zodiac as uh as representing God's Kingdom and how and how those 12 signs impact us today so again if you if you keep in mind Jesus is referred to as God's son the light of the world and the sun in relation to the Earth has 12 signs of the zodiac out there in heaven that's where God is out there in heaven well that's where the sun is the sun if was out in the sky well the sky is called heaven so therefore the son does not belong to anybody it belongs to God so it's God's son and he's in heaven and once you begin to see that God's son who is in heaven of course the son's in heaven what hell else would it be if it's not in heaven well God's son's in heaven and he is our he is Our Risen Savior of course he Our Risen Savior the damn thing don't come up we're dead in 3 weeks so all life on the earth is dependent on the Sun your food won't grow and if there is no sun believe me the O North and South Pole was nothing compared to what the whole earth is going to be in 3 or 4 weeks if the Sun dies out we don't have a sun the whole earth will be covered with ice so God's son is Our Risen Savior why because it comes back every morning thank God and in Winter it dies in Winter to us in the northern hemisphere it dies to us and but but you know but eventually it Springs back to life in Spring and uh and then it comes back to the Northern Hemisphere and when it starts uh summer summer is in the constellation of Leo Leo the Lion and so that's one of the constellations of the zodiac is a lion Leo the Lion so that's why God's son uh the light of the world is referred to as a lion of the tribe of Judah and so then you have all these silly uh silly ass religions talking about oh our leader was the lion of the tribe of Judah it's all Sun worship it's all astrology it's all the old way but people don't understand the difference between the old ancient profoundly important uh way of the Ancients who the the Egyptians the ancient Hindus the ancient world of 10,000 years ago where the real wisdom of the universe was uh we don't understand any of that today we got religions and churches and TV and TV preachers and uh none of it makes any sense to anybody who is spiritually inclined because there's nothing to religion religion is simply a business and this is why Christianity has churches that are divided into denominations you know like tens and 20s and 50s that's what we call money it's in denomination because Religion Today is simply a corporation it's a business and and the business is to entertain so the church is is neck and neck with Hollywood Hollywood is trying to get as many people into uh seats to make money to entertain the people so they come up with a different sermon every time you turn around a new movie a different sermon a different story something new so that everybody will come to the church church or actually come to the the the theater and incidentally that's where we get that word theater from from the Greek word the ancient way the Greek word for God is Theo t h EO Theo so God is Theo or the th H which gives us our word theator or or theology so therefore theology is a worship of the on the on the study of Theo or the study of God theology is given to you in a theator so in the ancient Greek world you would go to an outdoor theater to learn about Theo or God so what you you know the bottom line is that this is why Jesus is referred to as God's son he's Our Risen Savior of course it rises every morning about 5:30 and like I said it is your savior if it don't come up you're dead and uh he had 12 followers they were called the Apostles of the followers of God's son the others the 12 signs of the zodiac the 12 months of the year which gives us 12 hours of day and the 12 hours of night but God's son had an evil brother he had an evil twin that's uh that's that's um the constellation uh of the Twins and so what was God's son son's twin was the Prince of Darkness because when the sun came up he was the light of the world but he had an evil brother who was the Prince of Darkness and so we call that the devil well it's simply anything that opposes light is darkness and so devil is simply putting a d the letter D in front of the word evil write evil and put a D in front of it because devil and the same root word for God which is good g o o d take an O out of good becomes God God is good the devil is evil and so all of this needs to go back to the old way go back to the beginnings of the ancient world and then you will find for the first time in your life how the stuff on the earth really works and then you begin to see that your life is a disass star because you don't understand how the universe works and but Kings and rulers and princes and presidents they they want to know they're not like us uh you know if you go to church people will ask you are you a Believer or how long have you been a Believer well governments and Kings don't want to be believers they want to damn well know well the churches don't ask you how long have you been a nost because the Greek word Gnostic means to Know M well nobody knows anything in a church they go to church for 50 years and you ask them a question and they look at you with eye glassy eyes they they don't know what you're talking about it's because the churches are based on uh the Christian church I mean how many people go to church and don't even know where the word church comes from and have no idea in the world what the word church means and where it actually came from I mean it's the same thing like how many people believe in Jesus Christ and have no idea in the world what the word Christ actually in fact means and uh a lot of people a lot of people talk about the anointing Jesus anointed them and they've been Anointed with Holy Spirit and have idea in the world what anointing comes from what that word means so I'm just saying that this is in my life of uh this is the way I've lived my whole life I I much prefer going to the ancient records going back into the ancient uh Hindu into the ancient Egyptian the ancient uh Phoenician Canaanites uh into the ancient world of the ancient Greeks and studying the the the mythology of the Greeks the Romans and then into our modern day into Britannia into Europe and then the development of religion into uh America and once you begin you know once you that do that kind of studing it becomes overwhelming and in your face apparent that we are totally lost as a human race we haven't got the Fest idea in the world what's going on we couldn't build a pyramid today if they put a gun to your head we don't have equipment big enough to to build uh the pyramid with 1,400 ton stones and go up uh go up 60 stories up with uh 800 ton stones and uh it's just incredible what the ancient peoples knew the calculations they knew in the ancient Egyptian world and the ancient Babylonian Samaran s system they understood the heavens they understood the ancient uh concepts of life and how life developed and and you know it's just amazing how much we don't know anymore in this world and the reason why is because we've been sold a bill of goods that all you need to know is how to do your job and go to college and get a work degree and get a degree which is a work permit so you can go out and get a job and the word job goes back to the Book of Job spelled the same way j o b job and job was uh the whole story of job was nothing but trouble and heartache and and and tragedy in the human life in the Book of Job that's why when you go to your job or your job you know is nothing more than just heartache and work and you know and so words words and terms and symbols and emblems religions images Concepts uh it's an extraordinary story of the ignorance and the Betrayal the human race we have no idea in the world what's going on but uh there are people who do and there are people who know exactly where we've come from where we are now and they are guiding us into a future that we as humans have no idea in the world where we're going but I've been watching it for years I've been talking about this for 50 years that I know where America is going why because I know where it came from as a matter of fact there's a star in the northern hemisphere that the ancient peoples in the Arabic World call amera amera is a star a system and a star in the system called Amira from which we get because it was directly overhead in 1776 and so the founding fathers of this uh of this country uh refer to our new established order and they called it Amer because of the star America which was over our head and so when you look at the history of Nations the symbols and the ult or hidden symbols of Nations and peoples uh it's all based on astrology you know when when the when the Russian Federation was originally founded hundreds of years ago directly overhead was the constellation of Ura major which was uh called The Great Bear so that's why Russia is referred to and represented symbolically as the Great Bear why because of Eartha major in the sky the constellation over that over that country at the time it was founded so I mean over Mexico and the symbols in the Mexican the symbols in America symbols over Europe what do these words mean what did the symbols mean where did these religions come from where did the concepts come from where are we are right now and where are we going it is one hell of a story of the stupidity the ignorance and how lost we are as a human race we have no idea in the world where we're going and where we've come from and Adolf Hitler said if you're going to control the future you need to control the present and you can't control the present unless you know the the past where we've come from so this is why none of this this kind of material I talk about none of this at all is found in schools you will never hear any of this wisdom and knowledge and deep understanding of the history of the world and the history of the human race you will never hear any of this in a school and you will dare never hear it on radio or television because the people who run this planet are a lot of things but stupid a one of them and they realize that if you're going to uh if you're going to own the Earth and and control the whole human race uh which you know that's that's the bottom line on life is to be in control of your business well they made human life into a business and they control the business and how did they do that very simple by making sure the whole human race is occup P watching uh Paris Hilton and the and and the Lakers and uh the Dodgers and drinking a lot of beer and partying and entertaining yourself uh give you plenty of alcohol and make sure they have a damn uh liquor store on every corner and they make sure they have beer and and Whiskey on every corner uh they make sure you have plenty of entertainment on television and movies and and all kinds of things to keep you busy so that you don't get in the way of the people who run your world because they don't they're not interested in all that silic crap that's called that's called plean entertainment the music in Hollywood is referred to by professionals as plean Music Hollywood presents emotion pictures which are refer to in the house if you know Hollywood I've lived here for 53 years it's plean entertainment it's plean plean uh music plean was a old Latin word for the poor workingclass slobs uh the Jews call them the the poor unwash unwashed masses that are the ignorant public uh give them emotion pictures and television and music and beer and drugs and sex drugs rock and roll and music and just give them anything they want give them all the entertainment so they don't get your way because their whole thing is is not you know all collectively the whole country's got an IQ of 40 and so they don't get in the way of the Donald Trumps and the Obamas and the zgn binski and the Henry kissers and the Masters of the world who live like Gods while we live like cockroaches so they they know keep the people entertained make sure the men have plenty of sex that's always good keep them busy make sure all the women have uh all this materialism you know and sex drugs and music and entertainment that all keeps them busy so keep all of them busy and for God's sakes make sure the young children who are coming and make sure they have plenty of sports and uh and and you know and cage fighting and martial arts and keep the whole world occupied while the Masters run the Earth and they rip you off and rape you and destroy you and put you into Wars and violence and bloodshed and then they Bank you and uh so you know the more we change the more we stay to same we are still slaves as we have always been mankind has always been slaves and we have no power and the reason we have no power and Americans have no power to do anything and most people know that and the reason we have no power is because knowledge is power and we have no knowledge we don't know our butt from a hole in the ground we have no idea in the world what a republican is we have no idea what the word democracy means we don't have no concept of how America was founded and who the people were and where the money came from and how America is a corporation out of uh out of uh India and that the whole United States of America uh comes out of the Hindu India um the British East India Company is a corporation and out of that Corporation came another company uh called the United States Corporation and uh we have no idea about any of this how the world works so what I've always said is that people are do not understand how the world works but I will guarantee you one thing I've been studying this stuff for 53 years and and what little bit I know that's why I say I'm not the world's foremost authority on anything I I know how much I don't know and but I do know how much the world doesn't know so there I don't see any hope for a better life for America or for the world what I see as as a light at the end of the tunnel as a train coming because the the world we live in is way too complex and way too ignorant and ill-informed and self-centered and egotistical and downright stupid and uh and you you cannot you know and I've been trying to educate people for 53 years by lecturing and talking to people and libraries and and clubs and small groups and the more I do it I'm on radio and then I get on television and I've been doing this for 53 years and I can tell you that it it's it's pretty much hopeless because trying to educate the human race is like trying to empty the Pacific with a cup there's a tsunami of human ignorance and stupidity that loves to Waller in stupidity we just love uh one of the great European economists um he wrote in one of his books I'm trying to remember his name right now but he wrote In the book uh many years ago that that the people of every nation in every time of History every age of history and All Nations and all all countries of the world humans have always supported a dictator they have always supported a dictator they are supporting dictators to day and they always will support a dictator because that's in the very nature of the human creature man and woman it's in our human nature to support a dictator we see that in our worship of of movie stars and Donald Trump's and and obam and and and Jimmy cter and we love to be in the presence of power and famous people while are actually the famous people are nothing but criminals they are they are fascist nazi Communists filthy degenerate murderers and criminals they're on drugs they're mentally deranged they're inbred they're raping and plundering behind the scenes and on their drugs and killing and planning murderers and and overtaking uh ripping off people and stealing uh but we love it the humans love to crawl on their knees to the emperor and and we want to be in the everybody wants to crowd in and see the Queen mom the queen when she rides by in her gold Chariot we would just uh you know wave our hands to try and see the queen and we want to be in uh to see the castle when the prince gets married so the more we change the more we stay the same we're still the ignorant creation that somebody created a long time ago and that's a whole new subject and it's who created us and where do we really come from what's really in the Bible not what you thought was there so anyway I can sit and talk for hours cuz I've been doing it for 50 years and I realize and I understand that people hearing me for the most part I would say the overwhelming majority of people who hear me in this world have no idea what the hell I'm talking about I haven't got the faintest idea in the world what the hell is Jordan Maxwell talking about it hasn't got nothing to do with anything of any actual you know importance like football or basketball or Paris Hilton getting laid or anything that that's important to us and ain't got nothing to do with Obama saving the whole world and being Jesus Christ has nothing to do with uh with your work and where you work and the beer you're drinking so you know and the basketball score and the Dodgers are playing this weekend so what is Jordan Maxwell talking about while I'm talking about the ultimate conclusion of the human experiment on the earth is screwed it's over we have we have come to the end of an age we've come to the End of the pisan Age the Kaluga of of the ancient Hindus we've come to a time in the human history of the earth when all of our is finally coming home and God helped the world for what's coming now because we live like animals we think like animals we're about as ignorant as an animal and therefore our world is crumbling in front of us with pollution violence Wars you know airs not fit to breathe the food is contaminated your politics and your leaders are all corrupt the whole world lies in the power of the wicked one like the scripture says and there is not one that knows where he's going so uh I realize that what I do and the kind of things I talk about most people are going to hear me and think who is this Airhead this old man that belly aching about something but what goes around comes around and there will come a day when Americans and the world in general human race in general will begin to perceive that we have taken the wrong road a long time ago and then that scripture will then apply where God says thousands of years ago you should go back to the old way go back to the old way and let God's kingdom the Zodiac understand it understand how the world really works one other thing I would give you an example of of how I think the um if you own and I know the people probably have heard this before but I think it Bears the witness again that uh if you have a twostory building and you're going to put a heavy lot of weight on the second floor like printing presses and heavy equipment before you do that if you've got any sense at all you should call a building inspector and go downstairs and get on a my ladder and remove the ceiling tiles from the first floor and look at the foundation of the floor to see what you're building on before you go put no heavy weight on it you better go downstairs and look at the floor and see if it's going to hold that kind of weight before you go building on it so what you're doing is you're standing downstairs you're standing under the foundation You're Building you're building on so you're standing under to get understanding so if you haven't stood under the world of stupidity and ignorance and spent many years studying the occult and the wisdom of the Ancients and how the world works then you don't have understanding until you stand under the world that you live in and I've said too that if you are going to uh ship a box or carton across the uh the country you go out in the garage and you get some rope and you can tie the Box up and that uh that's sufficient but if you're going to take that same rope and walk out to the edge of a highrise building and tie it off and craw and and hang you going to hang on that rope off a building then you have better check the Integrity of that rope before you go hanging your life on it so the point I'm making here is before you go believing anything you better wake up and get a get a brain and get a piece of brain and start looking at the history of the human race and what the words mean what the concepts mean and why they use certain colors you need to understand that the white man system what we call the white man's world is Europe north east west and southern Europe which is where we get our word news north east west south neews news so when you understand where the white man comes from is north east west and south of Europe and one of the most important uh facts about the white man's world is that Europe was the center of the world for 2,000 years Rome has ruled Europe the Roman empire under the Caesars and then 1600 years ago with the fall of the Roman Empire came the Vatican so the Holy Father and the Vatican is Caesar in Rome you don't think so watch the way all the the national leaders and world leaders and all the big shots that run the Earth they go and bow on their knees and kiss the ring of the Pope why because he is Caesar ponix Maximus the biggest white man on the planet period therefore if you don't understand the white man you don't understand what's going on in the world you don't understand any of it and uh one of the most important symbols in the old ancient European system of the white men uh was a m the well the whole white establishment in Europe Europe was referred to as The Druids the druidic peoples were the white man in Europe and The Druids were a very powerful Club I mean it was a big club and you ain't in it and so the big Club was the Druid priesthood they were the lawyers the doctors the judges they were the bankers they were the religious leaders they were anything was important in the white man's world the you know the members would be the Druid movement and one of the most important symbols in the white man's Druid uh system was um a magic wand like Marilyn the magician with his magic wand where magic wands were always made out of the wood of a holly tree it was made out of Hollywood I don't know if you're getting what I mean I'm just telling you the whole world is ignorant ill-informed and we're all slaves because knowledge is power and we don't have any power have I made a point or or do you understand what I'm saying I definitely follow your work and actually familiar with a lot of the terms you're saying I think a lot of people who were tuned into to the show realized a lot of that and I realize that that that's actually what you have to do is you have to pull that chair out from under them to show them that they understand nothing that they need to overstand it right that's show them that that that their religions are a force and that their ideologies and their doctrines are the traditions of men which Christ spoke of and I've had a lot of personal conversations with you Jordan and I can sense your heart the fact that you if anyone teaches the teachings of Christ as they were meant to be taught and understood and actually believes you know what the man was saying it's you and I think a lot of people who are in the chat room a lot of people who are listening they are the ones who understand that look we know that this system is messed up we know that that they've got us by the balls so to say what are we supposed to do how do we return to the ancient path because we're looking for a leader the pastors aren't leading you uh the government's not leading you we're looking for someone who is going to stand up and be the standard so that's why you know people you know we have people like you on to show people flock to my music and the different the different people who are involved with it and things like that so where would you say like starting at Ground one for somebody wanting to get back to the ancient path to abandon religion but not abandon God because we know that there's a supreme ruler who rules us all all right I have no I I have no problem whatsoever with the concept or the idea of God so people ask me if I believe in God I said no I don't believe in God I know there's a God so that's the difference between being a Believer you know if you go to church you know if you go to churches people will say well how long have you been a Believer are you a Believer and look up the dictionary Christians are called Believers but I am of the opinion it's about time you stop believing and do what the federal government does do what the governments of the world do as bad as they are they're smart enough to know you don't run a damn government by believing you better know you better have spies you better know you better record it and get uh get witnesses to it and get your spies in there and find out for sure so when you know something you don't need to believe you damn well know and I I have watched history and been and been a student of history for 53 years of my life in the dark side of History I call it the occult world the word ult simply means in Latin hidden and therefore I know that real wisdom and knowledge and understanding is hidden of course it's hidden talk about wisdom and knowledge and understanding to the modern day people and they don't know what you're talking about they never heard those words exactly you talk about the you talk about Pythagoras or Plato or Aristotle and they want to know what team does they play on you know what what was it basketball or is he bounce a ball or do he throw a ball and then you find out you know that's what the life is all about it's a ball game that's why when you're a kid they tell you don't run you know just play ball be a team player be a team player and play ball I don't want to play ball I've had enough of ball games this is all that the human race has is football and basketball and tennis ball and soccer ball and kicker ball this is what you give children iq's of 40 and below this is what you give children as a ball you know adults tell the kids go out and play ball and then when you go to work at a at your at your work they they want you to be a team player and then they call you in and say you know what you're not playing ball so I understand uh that's the way the Masters who own us and who own the world that's the way they see us the mouth they tongues they wanted everybody to play ball and if you don't play ball they kill you that's what Adolf Hitler was all about that's what musolini was all about that's what all of these fascist murdering dictators and political opponents that's what they're all about now keep the world occupied and collect them all up together collect them all together called collectivism get the whole country with an IQ of 70 so that everybody will look usik every everybody will sound alike everybody will like the same music they'll like the same song and uh and they'll all pay money and they'll all do what you're supposed to do while the Masters uh smoke their cigars in the Cayman Islands and live like kings laughing at the human race so again we have no power because we have no knowledge knowledge is power Jordan I I was just thinking who tying this all in how we kind of started out a lot of people I don't think realize that a lot of this is in the Bible and a lot of people think they think that like the Jews or the Israelites they think of it starting at with Moses or Abraham they don't realize that if you go back even before the flood before Noah Enoch is like the patriarch of Patriarchs and the Book of Enoch is kept from us and in there it pretty much explains how all of this stuff was explained to him well look at in the in the in the New Testament and one of the last books of the Bible I think it was in junee one of the last books in the New Testament says and Enoch also prophesied do you know there's about 30 uh 35 at last kelp uh I have it on my website there about 30 different books uh that the Bible uh in the Old and New Testament that the Bible talks about that are holy books about 30 of them 30 different titles of book that are in the Bible that the Bible says Are Holy books that are not in the Bible that we don't have and so there are 30 different books in the Bible but we don't have them they're actually quoted in the Bible yeah and in the book of Jude it says Enoch also prophesied and and you think wait a minute is that Christian is that in the Bible yes it's right there in the book of Jude said Enoch prophesied well where is his prophecies well we don't have that well where are the Prophecies of the ancient peoples that the uh the other 301 we don't have that well where uh where did they go ain't that your business just go and have a beer and go to church and uh and do whatever and drop somebody in the in the in the uh in the in the church and and then you say wait a minute wait where does the word church come from what is that word actually mean and uh then when you trace that down that's when things really start getting interesting was when you you know and all three of of the major religions of the world um Christianity Judaism and Islam all three uh say that their father is Abraham all three of them agree that Abraham is the basis for all three religions and incidentally all three of those religions are referred to as people of the book Because all three religions rely on a book the Quran or the Bible or the Old Testament or the Torah it's always a book and so when you get a book you're going to get mistranslations and all that stuff that's why God says go back to the old way because you man mankind can mistranslate Mis Mis understand words and terms and and trying to translate from one language to another but you can't change nothing in the heavens you can't change the 12 signs of the zodiac you can't mistranslate they are what they are and they've been there and they're going to be there and you need to wake up and find out that's the real Tru and so when you begin to break down what the uh what the ancient peoples understood and what they knew going it make sense the Bible says go back to the old way so yeah I think that what's needed in this world is a Reformation you know you always hear Christians talking about they're going to have a big Revival a church Revival well my God that's what's needed we need a Revival because a Revival you know people if you need to be revived that means you're dead that means you're knocked out you need to be revived that's like Christians always having a Revival but the problem is they're just being revived in the same old crap the same old lies the same old man-made occult religions the same old stuff and this is why people go to church for 50 years and not known anything because they're not being given anything they're not being taught anything all they're getting is candles and singing and hymns and dancing around the stage and all of this panus stuff that humans do on stage in churches and synagogues and mosque and they think God you know they tell me about God like what dick greyy said you know tell me about God God is dogs go backwards you need to wake up and find out you are a very small part of this Earth You human and the Earth is a very small part of the solar system and the solar system is a very small part of a galaxy and this galaxy is a very tiny Galaxy and there's hundreds of billions of galaxies so you want to talk to me about God you better go back and do some homework cuz you ain't talking about the same God I am you're talking about an old ugaritic phenician Canaanite god called Yahweh and Yahweh was nothing more than a phenian Canaanite ugaritic god of the ancient Sumerians the Babylonians so I mean I'm I'm just telling you that that there's a world of wisdom and knowledge that people don't have and that's why our country and our lives personally and in our country we're in in a mess because we don't understand anything and it's yeah you're right we need somebody to to rise up in this world of darkness and to bring some light into it but I'll tell you what I've been trying to do that and all that's brought me was heartache and tragedy and the loss of everything so I don't know if it's even possible because I feel like trying to save the human race is like trying to empty the Pacific with a cup you know the whole world is is submerged in a tsunami of self-centered egotistical Sports drinking partying but somewhere along the line the world the there's trouble coming on the earth there's violence and bloodshed and murder and raping and plundering and drunkenness and drug addiction and gangs and driveby shootings and law lawlessness all over the world the world is coming to a very bad place and we're going there fast and there's nothing anyone can do about it because we have no knowledge we don't know where we've come from we have no idea where we are and nobody knows where we're going why because we're ignorant and we love it we don't want to know we're not interested to know so we got TV who they all needs to go look at all that old stuff but one day soon we're going to wake up and find out and then at that time the wisdom and the knowledge is going to be a premium people are going to want to know well it's going to be a little too late so that's why I do the best I can with what I've got and believe me it's very very difficult and you're going to pay a hell of a price to do what I did I've lost my wife my family brother since 1989 I've been homeless I sleep on the floor and I'm broke and I have nothing zero nothing have no bank account no credit cards no children no home nothing I was them for my friend who gives me a room to the to live in I wouldn't even have a room I couldn't sleep in my car I don't have one and so you know that's what that's what my work has given me nothing but heartache and tragedy and loss of everything so but you get what you pay for you know you it's uh it's the old story you get what you pay for I wanted to know so now I know and I paid a hell the price for it Jordan I got a question I always in my research for the first couple years everywhere I looked we turned up Sun worship and it's like yeah everybody knows about Sun worship but over the course of the last year I would say just non-stop it keeps coming up Saturn worship and I was just curious what what you got to say about you know the ancient s saturnalian Cults and Lord don't get me started on that my God we go for another four hours just on that one subject yeah sat the the god of the Jews the Hebrew God you know we're told that the Hebrew religion of the the Jews were the first monotheistic people now anybody who got more than 500 brain School 500 brain cells going in the right direction and has gone to school learn how to read knows that that's ludicrous on the face of it anybody's ever read a history book knows that's that's ludicrous the Jews were the first monotheistic people no such a thing ever existed first of all there was no in Israel and the Jews are not monotheistic because the word mono means one and theistic again Theo theistic means god so the Jews were the worshippers of one God they were monotheistic no they weren't monotheistic they have never been monotheistic they're not monotheistic now and ain't never going to be monotheistic uh and so Mano means one God Hebrews the uh what we call the Hebrew people were a heo it's spelled h e n o very simple h e n o theistic henotheistic henotheistic means picking one out of a group so let's say there's 20 uh there are there are 20 gods and you looking at all 20 and you pick one and so therefore you pick one and you make a contract with that one God I'll be your servant and you will be my God so there therefore we could say that you are the worshipper of one God yes but there doesn't mean there's only one God no hell there's 20 of them but you pick one and so that and the dictionary definition of Hebrews is they are henotheistic they pick one God they're not the worshippers of one God like there's only one God no the Hebrews picked one God and their God they call Yahweh and so the Christians they were the worshippers of one God yeah they picked one too called Jesus and the and the islamics they picked one of the Gods too and he was called Yahweh or Allah and I'm saying you know what if any of these people had a brain they would be dangerous all of these words of the Gods all go back to the old ugaritic Phoenician Canaanite ancient cults of the of the ancient gods and nobody seems to know that Islam is worshiping an all ancient ugaritic Phan Canaanite god who was Allah which is the same God that the old phenician Canaanite ugaritic peoples gave to the Hebrews which is Yahweh so Yahweh is Yahweh and Yahweh is Yahoo that's why you have uh the uh the whole Jewish um thing with the Jewish god on the on the web called Yahoo Yahoo is yahwa yahwa Allah it all goes back to and it's in dictionary my God you don't have to be an astronaut or a brain surgeon to figure this out just go back and look at the dictionary and look up Yahoo or Yahweh or Allah and you'll see it all goes back to the old Phoenician Canaanite ugaritic ancient Sumerian system of gods and uh it's all the same stuff it's all an ancient gods and ancient Hindus and my Lord where does this stuff where does this stuff and looking at the way that people live I mean that's why the Bible says by their fruits you shall know them what is the fruitage of the worship of Yahweh what is the fruitage of the worship of Allah what is the fruitage of looking of worshiping Jesus what is the fruitage you know there's a scripture in the Bible that there's a story in the Bible where people came to Jesus and they had seeds in their hand and they asked him what kind of seeds are these and he looked at them and said why don't you plant the thing Airhead why don't you plant the seeds water the seeds and watch what comes up that way you pretty well are assured what what kind of seeds they are because if an apple tree comes up I well I guess they were an apple seed but if a PA tree comes up I guess it was a pear tree so the best way to know what kind of seeds they are is go plant the than stupid and see what comes up then you know for damn sure what kind of seed it was well what is the seed The Offspring or the fruitage of the three religions uh the worship of Allah yahwah Jesus what is the fruitage of the you know because like the Bible says by their fruits you shall know them well look at the fruitage of the three religions of the people of the book today around the Earth Bloodshed violence pornography drug addiction murder in the Middle East blowing up killing people uh children women running around with completely covered and blocked and and and the and the men ranting and raving and screaming they're going to kill everybody if they don't love Allah and the Jews are God's chosen people that love the Lord and everybody else can go to hell and everybody else is beneath them and the Christians hate everybody it's just a mess because nobody understands where any of this come from and they all have have like the scripture says all mankind has lost its way they're all ignorant they're all nothing but a bunch of pagan silly ass religions and what is the fruitage of of man's Pursuit like the scripture says a mankind has formed for themselves teachers we form our own religion we don't give a damn about what God says we don't care what the universe says we don't care what the Ancients knew we form for ourselves teachers and we call it we call it Islam and we will kill you if you don't love our God and we will rape and and we'll marry six-year-old children and six- ye old girls and consummate our marriage with a 9-year-old child and if you don't like it because Allah loves us and and we love Allah and he loves everyone and if you don't love Allah we'll kill you we'll cut your head off and and and the Jews are the God's chosen people they love the Lord and they are the chosen people of God and everybody else can go to hell and crawl on their needs that work for them uh I'm just amazed at at uh you know and and it doesn't seem that too many people have caught on to what's going on here it's just it's just companies it's just corporations it's just business yeah so what hey Jordan we've got a couple people on the line you mind taking a call I can imagine yeah yeah look at would I would preface this by saying yeah we can we can take people we can take calls but that doesn't mean I know you know they ask questions that doesn't mean I know the answer okay all right so if you're on the line uh just have your questions ready we're going to go to a caller in uh Northeast Illinois you there caller hey yeah it's Matt it is hey welcome to the show man thanks um well first off just want to say that I have a lot of difficult deep questions which probe into some highly esotic areas so I'm sorry if you're unable to answer any of the questions that I ask because of difficulty or because of Oaths or whatever if that's the case I completely understand so just say pass and I'll move on immediately um also thank you so so so much for your work I've been through most of it and it has help become to many important eye-opening realizations I'm deeply honored just to be showing energy and words with you over the phone tonight um well thank you I have uh three quick questions first uh first off can you give a quick reference list off the top your of your head of the different symbols of the Old Testament as they relate to the different glands and parts of the body oh yeah yeah yeah Manny P hall did the best work on that in a book called man the measure of all things there's a big thick book that manly P hall put out that that's that explains all that so much better called man the measure of all things where all the parts of the body are relation to esoteric knowledge which is applied to different races of people different religions and different symbols uh he also has a a magnificent book that basically talks about this stuff too call secret teachings of all ages you really need to get that book it's an ebook you can get it for free but I would suggest buying it also uh it's called secret teachings of all ages by manly m a n l y p Hall h a l l manly P hall was one of the greatest Minds the world has ever known one of the greatest teachers that ever lived in any era and he wrote so many imp impressive and incredible books explaining all the occult and hidden symbolism in world religion and yeah it's very interesting story about how man is the measure of all things and uh other the parts of our bodies in relation to the Zodiac in relation to symbols of government um it's a hell of a it's a hell of a study you know anyway but I I those are the two I would say right off the top of my head would be uh man the measure of All Things by manly P hall and uh seek teachings of all ages by m Hall thanks I've already started one of those and now definitely uh try and finish go on the web also go on the web also to uh manly P hall.org O RG manly P hall.org and there's a lot of uh of his lectures for free uh on AST Theology and it will blow your mind M it's all free just go there and listen to it just go you don't have to go to audio video or to uh YouTube you you can go to YouTube also and a lot of manly P Hall's lectures and and uh and and speeches are on YouTube Manley P hall but you can go to manly P hall.org and there's a whole series of about eight or nine 90minut lectures on Astro theology the basis for the ancient world relig and all of this I'm talking about it's all there and each one's 90 minutes long there must be eight or nine different lectures on this one subject of the old way where are the old the ancient way of understanding the symbols in the Bible what what they meant extraordinarily brilliant stuff right there for free on manly paul.org you I'm excited you got another question yeah um I've been trying to identify the different astrological ages according to their prevailing religious orders and kingdoms for inance the age of cancer was the age of Atlantis and the comic cataclysm and the age of Pisces has been the age of the Gentile church can you shed light on the major kingdoms during the ages of Gemini and Taurus were those the or was Taurus the Sumerian inv vadic Aon or was that Gemini who are the well I think the age of torus takes us back to India because Taurus the bow like the bowl of the stock market and believe me they are for Bowl but uh the age of of Taurus was the age of the bull and a bow has a calf and so the Hebrews in their story and the story was the worship of the golden calf and we know about the story of the Jews worshiping the golden calf well the golden calf golden is the son in the age of Taurus dull the golden C and and then Moses uh comes at the end of the 2,160 year period when they were worshiping the sun in the age of Taurus which was uh at the time India was dominant on the earth and that's a long time ago Hinduism in India and so Moses The Story Goes is that Moses comes along at the end of the 2,160 years that the Jews supposedly were worshiping God's God son the light of the world in the age of Taurus the Bull the golden calf and so Moses comes in to bring the New Age the new age is the next uh constellation of the zodiac and line going backwards and the next constellation with Taurus is uh Aries the RAM and so Moses comes to initiate the uh the uh new age of of uh Aries from which we get the blowing of the Ram's Horn and and uh and and so the the Hebrews were told in the Bible uh rejected the new age they said to Moses we don't want the new age uh we we've been for 2,160 years we've been worshiping Our God uh Yahweh the old son God uh in the age of Taurus well we've come to love the golden calf and we we don't want this new uh this new age that's all a bunch of bul well that's the same thing today we've got we got Christians running around talking about God's son who fed his people Jesus fed his people with two fish and he was the great fisherman and all his followers were fishermen and he was referred to as the great fisherman and he fed his people with two fish and the two fish are of course Pisces the two fish are Pisces and now that we're getting ready to leave after being in 2,160 years in the age of Pisces we're getting ready to go into the next constellation the next new age and like the story in the Bible of the old Hebrews they didn't want to go into the age of Aries the RAM and blow the Ram's Horn of the Sharm but they ended up doing it and so no longer did they worship the uh the golden Cal now they blowing the they're blowing the Rams Horn the chofar because they worshiping the sun in the age of Aries the RAM and then about the year 325 ad came about the beginning of the next constellation which was Pisces Pisces was a symbol of the two fish and so for some 1600 uh almost 1700 years we've been living now in the age of Pisces are the worship of the two fish and that's why Jesus as I said fed his multitude with the two fish and then the uh it's interesting in the Book of Luke 2210 in the New Testament book of Luke 2210 uh The Chosen 12 the apostles which is actually the 12 signs of the zodiac the 12 Brothers of Joseph the 12 tribes of Israel the 12 apostles the 12 12 12 it all goes back to the 12 signs of the zodiac well in the scriptures in in the Book of Luke 22 the 12 uh came the 12 followers come to Jesus the son Su n and they say now that you're going to die and this is the last supper the last passover in the age of of Pisces the fish where are we to go next and the the Bible says in Luke 22:10 Jesus God's son says to his 12 uh go into the City and you will see a man with a water picture go into the house of the man with the water picture well for God's sakes it's obvious the water pcture is the next sign of the zodiac the age of Aquarius and so this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius and so but Aquarius from what I have been able to find is not for another 400 years we got over 400 years before we're going into the age of Aquarius because it looks like from all real scholarly interpretation of the of the ages that Pisces which began the Christian religion the the worship of the two fish uh which incidentally that's exactly what Christianity is it was the worship of Pisces because the very first churches in Israel that we we've seen it on television we've seen it in magazines and art newspapers when they found the oldest Christian Church ever on the Earth was found in Israel and an area where they were built they they had a prison and they were going to build a a an addition to the prison so they were doing some excavation and and clearing off the land and they came across uh an old church that had been buried and that was in the news and beautiful pictures of it it's on it's on the web and this old church was they Israel they said is the oldest Christian Church ever ever found on the earth period and the old church uh on the floor was the was the Zodiac and on the Zodiac the middle one in the middle of the church was on the floor was Pisces the two fish well if that is the oldest church in the world and 2,000 years old uh you know well there it is there's Christianity the two fish on the floor of the church is the Zodiac go back to the old ways and so I'm saying I don't think that the uh the age of Pisces began until around 325 that would put the age of Aquarius somewhere about 425 430 years from now but if each age is 2,160 years long then uh 400 years or a little over 400 years is uh you know the the biggest part of the age of Pisces has passed it's not completely gone but it's pretty much gone there only about 400 years left out of 2,160 only about 400 years left so I guess you could say that we're living in the last days these are the end times and the last days that Christians talk about and Christians have no idea in the world what the last days of I used to ask kids that when I was growing up we're in the last days yep there it is in the Bible we're in the last days in the end times the end times of what a saale at Sears or or the the collapse of the world what are we in the end times of what is it that's ending and if it ends well there be something new of course there going to be something new anytime something ends it's going to be something new well what is ending the ending of the age of Pisces Christianity is on its way out the whole idea of Jesus ultimately one day is going to be completely gone and in its place will be the new religion for the New Age The New Age of Aquarius that's what Jesus said go into the house with a man with the water picture well what is the symbol of Aquarius if it's not a man with a water picture and I would add to that remember this that men never carried water look out any dictionary any encyclopedia on religion go to a seminary library and sit there for 3 weeks and read about water carriers water bearers people who carried water look it up in the dictionaries look it up in encyclopedias and reference works of the Bible all the reference works will tell you the same thing men never carried water you would be mocked and laughed at as a man if you carried water that was a woman's job and that's why Jesus was was talking to the women at the well women went to to carry the water men never carried water and the ancient world that was never to be done men don't carry water well why did Jesus say go into the city in Luke 22:10 he says go into the City and you'll see a man carrying a picture of water well men don't carry water well what was he talking about he's talking about Aquarius the man with the water picture it's all an encoded story it's an encoded hidden occult story and that's why today the world's going a mess it's in because we take everything literally as as literal uh history when in point of fact the whole Bible as an encoded occult or hidden wisdom hidden knowledge right in front of you that's why the scripture has Jesus saying they will look with their eyes but they do not see they listen with their ears but they do not hear and with their heart they do not get the sense of it and that's precisely where we are today people go to church and have no idea in the world what any of these symbols mean why he's on the cross why the man is dying on a cross uh why he has 12 Apostles I mean in all of this stuff is very e easily well known if you just do some reading so you have to turn off the TV and then the sitcoms and bugs money and all the rest of it and start going back to school and learn how to read and learn how to think and begin to shut down all of your enthusiasm for the government and for the law and for the movie stars and for all the things of this world and begin to see that like the scripture says has Jesus Satan tells Jesus I'll give you all the kingdoms of the world if you bow down to me it doesn't say I will give you all the king except for uh except for Canada and Australia no all the kingdoms of the world means you too all the kingdoms of the world are in the hands of the Dark Prince of Darkness well hell you don't have to be anoun not to figure that out all over the Earth there's violence and bloodshed and lies and Corruption the whole earth is corrupt there's not one that that has found that way not one is doing right not one is doing correct and the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one he's called The Prince of Darkness and the Prince of Darkness and all set yeah it's a hell of listen I can go on with this for hour I know you what I do I know you can we uh you know we're trying to take some calls hey uh thanks Matt for the calls man I know you got so much more I'm going to open up the phone lines to another caller in Georgia I believe this is Devin this is you Deon hey hey what what's what's going on guys yeah how's it going we don't know we don't know for sure very very F very funny Mr Maxwell hey hey brother Maxwell hot I just wanted to uh say that I've been following your work uh for a couple of years and um you you know I I've I've listened to other uh at teachers and uh researchers and this this one teacher you know said that uh you know when you when you get involved in things like this you know the the road to to wisdom is a very lonely one and you got that right yeah and I've experienced uh a a a a lot of things that went tosy turby because for a I was I was actually going to go you know and be and be a pastor and everything I I was I was in Bible school I'm I'm I'm almost 23 I'll be I'll be 23 and 30 minutes but well don't blame that on me that's not my problem yeah of course but uh like I I was I was on my way to becoming a a a past and I just I just let go because the the person that influenced me uh did decided he he wanted to kill himself and then a family member um told me that he he he was gay and I didn't believe it so I made a a conscious decision to say you know do I do I do I do do I really want to continue this path for myself and then it it it C it came to me I was like no I don't I don't I don't want to be manipulated by by the system and all that I I love God and I I love knowledge but but no forget pastoring I'm I understand yeah yeah well remember the Bible has Jesus saying the slave is no greater than the master what they've done to me they will do to you you well what what happened to the and remember Jesus said I am the truth and the light I am the truth and the light well he's the truth and the light yeah well if he is the truth and the light look what happened to him and therefore I said over and over that the story of Jesus is a metaphor he said I'm the truth and the light yeah well look what happened to the truth and the light right right yeah Ma Master Sando was was killed for it that's true so so so I I I have a I have a question for you I don't want to talk to you to death but I I have a question for you you you know you know I I I'm I'm I'm I well okay I was associated with the black church and and I and I've I've dealt with people that were uh biblically uh oriented and you know you know when when I would try to teach them this stuff the first thing that come out of their mouth is show show me show me where it's at in my Bible you know because they they all they always written King James and I'm I'm what they call the so-called newage kid you know but but but I have to use my reference you know to yeah to help them get a better understanding and then we can go to the King James so my and and then out comes the arguing I I even I even lost a a Christian girlfriend you know because I wanted to go deep into the occult you know I F I've listened to you I've listened to uh Dr Malachy York from uh the the uh the Newan Community or whatever uh Bobby hmet uh Delbert Blair Phil Phil Valentine yeah yeah yeah yeah so so I've been in involved in the occult for almost going on three years cause cause my cause my Awakening started with you and that was back in December of 2011 well let me let me explain something to the audience that when we use the word when we use the word occult mm uh the church the church has given an interpretation to the word occult to mean devil worship evil child sacrifice and all kinds of devil stuff right but the word occult is a Latin word which means if you look it up in a dictionary ult simply means hidden so when you put your hand in your pocket a dictionary definition says that your hand is a ult hand in that it's hidden so anything that's hidden the word in Latin is ult so ult doesn't mean evil or bad or devil worship it means hidden well I've been trying to tell you for the last hour and a half that the wisdom and knowledge and wisdom and understanding uh of the heavens and of history and of the world has been hidden from people and they've been given television and Donald Duck and Bugs Bunny instead and so real knowledge understanding and wisdom of who we are where we've come from where we are and where we're going has been hidden but there are people in this world that are very powerful who do know things you don't know and they're not about to tell you because like like uh George kland says the people who are running this planet it's a big club and you ain't in it so they're not going to tell you the real truth like the movie A Few Good Men when uh when uh Tom Cruz is badgering the old guy on the on the witness stand and the old guy says kid what do you want with me and he said I want the truth and he said you can't handle the truth well that's what I feel about the world I live in everybody wants the truth and everybody wants to know the truth no you don't want to know the truth don't give me that crap you don't want to know the truth and so that's why German people would see Adolf Hitler come on the scene and murdering people and and destroying the freedom and destroying their country they don't want to know what Hitler's doing they don't want to hear it they don't want to know and when musolini came into Italy the Italian people they loved the dictator they loved the Emperors and all the the papacy and the pope riding around the pope mobile and the Queen mom riding around in gold chariots they love that they don't want to know the real truth well the real truth is you can't handle the truth the real truth is there's nobody coming back to save you because there was nobody here to start with it's an encoded story it's been encoded and you don't know the code so you don't understand you talk about the God's kingdom and you have no idea in the world what that means and therefore by their fruit you shall know them look at the religion today they're full of bow of crap money grubbing they all bunch of goofballs AirHeads my God all you got to do is watch Christian TV if that doesn't make you sick nothing yeah yeah it's funny that a lot of people who aren't involved in religion can watch that stuff and understand that hey there's there's something to this you know that it's crazy or whatever but hey Jordan thanks for coming on the show man uh thanks you know what I'm saying so much for coming you know speaking to the audience and everything definitely like to have you back again y do it and my uh go on my website to Jordan Maxwell Show I got a podcast you can hear okay all right thanks so much man the Jordan Maxwell show.com right talk byebye all right brother yeah so there was a lot that was you know said in that that interview we're going to you know we're going to talk about a little bit of I want to go to the scriptures right quick and this is something that you all need to understand you know everybody in the chat room listening everybody listening on on YouTube or whatnot in the scriptures in the book of in the Old Testament Ecclesiastes uh chapter 1 verse starting in 16 and this is what happens 1:16 it says I and and this is coming from Solomon who you know God spoke to him and and told him he can ask for anything he wanted riches wealth anything he wanted and he didn't want any of that he wanted wisdom and God gave unto him wisdom and knowledge and with the wisdom and knowledge he gave the other stuff as well the richest he was the richest man and the wisest man in all the Earth so Ecclesiastes 1:16 says it is from Solomon I communed with my own heart saying lo I am come to Greater State and I have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem yay my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge and says right here and I gave my heart to know wisdom and to know Madness and Folly and he goes on to say I perceive that this is also vexation of spirit for in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow so if your Pursuit is to know the things that others don't know to know the things that Jordan was talking about to to look Beyond the Veil and and to see the you know the inner workings of of the Matrix and to see the inner workings of uh what looks to be this awesome religion or this awesome understanding and then when you pull the curtain back you see that the wizard is just a little bitty old man running his uh you know pulling the strings you know behind the scenes so that's one thing that you need to consider we see a man with as much knowledge and research you know as Jordan Maxwell and he's basically at the end of his his life at the end of his career who's lost everything he you know he he tells you he sleeps on the floor of a friend's apartment because he has given his his life to know wisdom and to no understanding and just as Solomon said he considered it vexation of spirit it vexed him it was burdensome for in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow because once you start understanding all these inner workings and finding out how the law Works finding out how religion Works finding out how the scriptures is really written and versus how they're taught within the churches and things like that you become one who is you feel like you're alone because nobody really cares about the Zodiac nobody cares about the Deep things of the spirit they're they're fine with dinner in a circus so I just want you know all the listeners just understands like are you seeking after the knowledge are you seeking after the the creation or whatever but what we believe that we have a relationship with the Creator with the Divine Creator and that there is a hope and it's not mankind at the end of the Rope we believe in the hope the hope that uh you know we found we offer it freely Jordan has a lot of good things to say I'm glad he came on the show we don't agree with everything he said we don't endorse everything he said but we let him say it you know so you know if you're listening everybody in the chat room was wanting to to hear him you know say if he believed you know that Christ really you know walked the Earth or not or whatever you know I I want to say this don't believe everything you hear from someone who who sounds a little bit more intelligent when they speak it just because that you see it in a a interview or you see it or you see it coming from behind a pull pit or you see it behind a lecture don't believe it as it's true I could definitely say I fell into that trap of hearing all this stuff and thinking that man he's he knows all this stuff and blah blah you know what Jord Maxwell is an awesome teacher he has a lot of good stuff to say but straight up the same as anybody else at any other pulit man exactly he's off on a lot of things and I think if we can agree to understand that and and understand that nobody has everything all the way figured out then I think we can take our the pieces of our puzzle which is why the show was created that's why we gave him the platform not to confuse any anybody but to really just put it out there and take your pieces of the puzzle take some of his pieces put it together until we can make some sense out of all of this right and I think you're right on as far as what you're saying about you know with increased wisdom comes it's a burden and that's the same not just with Jordan but you see William Cooper Bobby ham any of them other people who who come into this light and come start finding out all these different things that we don't see on the surface like wow this is what's really going on that it is so overwhelming and it's such a burden the only thing that was really hurting me and I mentioned it to you in the in our private chat was I was like man you know what I don't I don't watch TV I don't watch the news and my cousin was just telling me today about this whole Boston bombing and stuff and I just you know put out a quick message on Facebook like look man y'all don't let this get you caught up in negativity and and anger and depression and all this all these dark Energies because you know it can do that and but and and when I would listen to him talking he he does have so much knowledge but I was listening to him talking it's almost like he paints this really hopeless picture that there's nothing anybody can do there's you know it's hopeless and and the truth is dude there is hope love is the most high power and and it can change anybody on an individual basis and there's hope for any of us as individuals you know and we are in a very dark time collectively we're definitely are but it's not hopeless for you or for me or for any of us individually and you know we got to stay positive we got to think we got to think positive man yeah I mean you know I mean it's the you know because this world is confusing Babylon is is confused in this world there's I mean there's so much information there's so much knowledge out there and everyone claims to have the the right Doctrine and and the right knowledge and things like that one of the brothers said in the chat room he said um we talk about this a wisdom and knowledge that gives you this this vexation of spirit and brings about confusion and and a marks you but there is a a different type of of a wisdom it's the wisdom of God and and wisdom from him his his fresh word that he gives you his peace Christ said my peace I give you that no man can give you and no man can take it away it's a lot of people out there they have no hope that's why we see like stuff like we seen today on you know on the news all these bombings and shootings and and all this stuff like that man it's like you know we got to be a standard for some source of Hope no matter what you believe no matter what type of esoteric Doctrine or Christian doctrine or whatever you believe cuz I I really really don't care what you believe I really don't I believe in God and I believe in Christ and I believe that he he loves you I believe that he came to this earth Earth and he walked a perfect life and he was put to death and he died the death of a murderer and he never killed anybody he died the death of a thief and he never stole anything and that he died so that we can live and that mankind is separated from God all you got to do is turn the TV on and see that mankind is separated from God and Christ came to bridge that Gap but between us and God so I mean that's what we have to off believe it or not I really I really can care less did it for everybody you know whether you to believe it or not yeah and and it's there it's it's there and and and I could see that if you know it was just some people who believed it man but I've seen people's lives totally transformed by this this gospel I've seen people's Li I've seen man i' I've seen so much stuff dude that I've seen people who couldn't look you in the face because they were so demon oppressed and full of drugs and and and and all types of spirits and I've seen people lay hands on them and spirits leave their body and and the people can look you in the eyes and hold a conversation and peace come into their in into their spirit and and life breathe back into their body man so I know the power of the gospel and it's real and there is these esoteric deeper meanings uh behind the scriptures that you're not going to get in church there's also the quite literal meanings that you're not going to get from Jordan Maxwell that's just a simple truth yeah man things that me and you are both you know what I'm saying it's not like we're just saying it out of head knowledge we're saying out of even our own personal experience dude no I would be I would be I would be judged of God if I didn't tell you that's the thing like I I would I I would miss an opportunity so I don't want it to seem like okay Jordan's off the phone now we're going to you know straighten up some things that he messed up or whatever the case is if you listen to any of of Jordan Maxwell's interviews when he's on other people's radio shows he does bring about the negative for with him and a lot of people they try to speak hope to him they try to say hey the work you're doing is good keep up the good work keep up the good fight you've inspired so many people to keep seeking past the mundane to turn the television off and to seek the things of you know of heaven or whatever and and if he has for you that's awesome man he you know he's inspired me to do a lot of great things but he he is not the know all and end all when it comes to knowledge and information I mean if you want to end up where he is right now it's not it's not a good place to be man I really appreciate his work and everything he's done everything he's doing but um I think there's a little bit more to life yeah man I'm after that love and peace and power knowledge and peace that's a practice all understanding so that's the thing is if you want to just go according to knowledge you know even if it's factual literal knowledge that knowledge can drive you crazy bro and it doesn't seem to me like he got peace you know and and Bible says that Christ gives us a peace that surpasses all understanding that it's not even to the human comprehension that regardless of all the negativity regardless of all the evil regardless of all that that we're surrounded by we can still have peace you know and that's what gives me through the day man yeah and that's the thing man cuz there's a lot of people man dealing with this type of stuff some crazy listen it it but here's the thing there's crazy people it's just people it it really has nothing to do with a religion or a movement because there are some crazy people in the New Age movement there's crazy people in the occult field true they're out there there's I exactly but it transcend that it's crazy Christian people it's crazy Islamic people Buddhist people it's just people in in general so it's not like you can't take something like that and and group it to that religion or that belief system because it transcends that man it's that sin nature it's the lack of understanding you know it's the it's the lack of tolerance as well man that pushes people you know to these edges you know uh we can touch on next week's show man if you want to kind of talk about what's going to go on next week yeah man well I just want to say I'm I'm super relieved and I feel super a lot better man now that we just got to kind of like share a little bit kind of just counter balance it a little bit because man I was feeling like man I really don't want to end it just end it on that and just leave people kind of feeling hopeless out there you know like this is what it is and there's nothing you can do about it yeah you know but but yeah man I'm I'm really excited to get to to get to share with you guys next week about man my life story because I've been on one hell of a ride dude and I've been through all them depths I've been through darkness and loving it darkness and evil and addiction and and just wallowing in it and all the way back out to the other side dude through the Supernatural and through coming into Supernatural wisdom and knowledge and and letting that come alive inside of me that light and love and peace that I'm talking about and totally transform me just like you were saying and to where it's I'm affecting the world dude I'm affecting other countries I'm affecting people all over the US with my words and my actions and my life as an example and and that's that is for everybody you know it's a universal thing has nothing to do with me or you as an individual we're just blessed to have been able to come into that experience and I'm uh I'm planning on giving my testimony next week bro in a in a way that I haven't given it before and opening up and sharing some stuff that I've never told anybody and I'm kind of at that point I mean if if if if Christ transform you and Christ heals you and turns everything bad into something good you should be able to share that and hope that it that it touches other people you know and that yeah that it gives a light and hope for them so I'm hoping that next week um I can do that for some people all right definitely looking forward to hearing that we got a couple more people in the chat room I'm going to bring Matt I'm going to I'm going to bring you in somebody wants to hear your testimony now you got to tune in next week um hey Matt I'm going to bring you in in a minute and do what you said pray over uh Jordan somebody's been on the line holding guest 34 are you listening to the show did you have a question or what's up hey man uh yeah I've been kind of like seeing your Facebook post on these chats and U I'm kind of new to uh you know the Life of Christ and just listening to all these things it's really interesting all these testimonies man I'm um you know just living day by day you know reading the word and just trying do good and be a better person um I think it's kind of good that you cleared up what a um like gu I was talking about it wasn't really wasn't really the truth it's not my know not the word of God and it's very negative and you know God is love God is positivity we got to be The Shining Light in the darkness which is the world yeah yeah I'm enjoying listening to the show man that's what's up man thanks for calling yeah so I mean there is a lot of Truth to what he's saying because there is I mean you you got to I mean you got to understand that Darkness out there obviously this world is dark you know the scriptures even say that the whole world is under the you know the guys of the wicked one and you know even in job it says that the Earth is given into the hand of the wicked and I think Jordan's just kind of pointing that stuff out man just showing you yeah it's deeper and once you think you have it figured out it's deeper than you even know once we can see the darkness then the light of Christ shines for itself because because he is the light of the world you know he is the peace he is the rest and he is the the truth in the midst of all that confusion yeah I mean uh there is darkness and he did point it out I mean there's oh yeah an hour and a half now yeah no but you know the one thing we got to focus on is just our our path our walk with Christ just we can't live our life the way we want it it's on an individual basis that's control we we murder our flesh every day and we don't yeah that that's true man yeah what's your name man my name is Manuel and I'm uh calling from New Mexico okay sweet that's what's up man I'm gonna um I'm going to bring Mr Matthew back on the line Matthew yeah yeah man no problem dude you there Matt uh yeah hey so do you have anything to say after that I know you want to you know speak you know speak a word over him but um anything kind of uh nothing specific uh all my other questions are or comments are for him and they too long to get into now yeah that's fine but uh to I say a blessing right now yeah go ahead man all right once again I apologize I have coffee brain right now but either way he'll get blessed so yeah all right um Father in heaven we come to you today in the name of your son Yeshua hamashiach Jesus Christ and we ask you to oh first off we come and we thank you for the enormous enormous blessing that Jordan Maxwell has been on in our lives and in the collective world we thank you for all the information he's revealed the truth that he has brought forth and wisdom that you have trained him up in and we just pray that you would continue to to shine your light upon him and to give him more increased measures of wisdom understanding knowledge and light and that you would uh just bring him to the fullness of the realization of Christ and the fullness of um of who Yeshua was and his physical incarnation we pray that you would liberate him from everything that is um holding him down and the uh the barriers that are keeping him from truth we pray that you would continue to open his eyes and that you would would pour new favor and blessing into his life from unexpected areas and that you would help uh build him up again when the time is right and that you would give him money place to stay car everything that he needs uh I pray that that would all shadow in comparison to everything that he truly needs which is the fullness of your glory and your son and we pray that you would just continue to to unlock higher amounts and Realms of Light Within his mind with his entire within his entire being and uh once again we just thank you for the blessing that he has been in our lives and thank you for the blessing that Derek has been in my life and everyone else who has tuned in and we pray that You' continue to do a mighty work through him pray this all in your son's name amen amen appreciate it man yeah so you know anybody listening man however this podcast goes out if you're dealing with confusion if you have questions and you know about life and general spiritual problems whatever the case is contact one of us on Facebook you can contact myself through um facebook.com truthseeker truth s k ah and uh Dan you want to give out your information yeah you can get me at facebook.com MBK International MBK International and um if you have any questions about the Bible about life in general or you just need somebody to talk to we a couple just regular guys who were there who were trying to figure this thing out you know with you so you know hit us up anytime man we you know what I'm saying we' love to talk to you we love to pray with you uh whatever the case is so thanks for tuning in to the show we will be back next week to hear uh Dan's testimony uh some powerful stuff man and um I guess we'll see you guys next week uh peace and Shalom peace shom and um I want to say a big shalom shalom out to Brother P was in the house holding it down holding his holding his uh propit staff in the video shouts out man thanks for 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